第三十六章

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陈牧：寡人观隋唐之乱，深以为鉴，先生以为如何？萧凡：臣以为，戒慎乎其所不睹，恐惧乎其所不闻。《诗》云，恺悌君子，无信谗言。谗言罔极，交乱四国。夫子曾言，恶利口之覆邦家，盖为此也。臣尝观自古有国有家者，若曲受谗谮，妄害忠良，必宗庙丘墟，市朝霜露矣。愿大王以隋唐为鉴，深慎之！陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人谨受教。chenmu：IlearnedaboutthechaosoftheSuiandTangdynasties，andIlearnedmylesson，Sir，whatdoyouthink？xiaofan：Ithink，Youshouldbecautiousandinaweofthingsyoudon'tunderstand，Asagentleman，Youdonotbelieveinslander，slandercanthrowthecountryintochaos，Therehavebeenmanysuchcasesbefore，Inthepast，manynationsandfamiliesperishedbecausetheylistenedtoslanderAndpersecutedrighteousministers，Ihopeyoulearnfromthis。chenmu：Sirisright，Irespectfullyacceptyourteachings。陈牧：寡人弱冠交游，亦未常与君子，及居大宝，经理天下，虽不及尧、舜之明，庶免乎孙皓、高纬之暴，先生以为如何？萧凡：臣以为，善恶，诚由近习，中人可与为善，可与为恶，然上智之人，自无所染。大王受命自天，平定寇乱，救万民之命，理致升平，岂此等之徒能累圣德？但经云，放郑声，远佞人。近习之间，尤宜深慎，愿大王鉴之。陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人谨受教。chenmu：Asachild，Imadealotoffriends，Buttherearefewgentlemen，Later，Iascendedthethroneandgovernedthecountry，AlthoughIamnotasgoodasYaoShun，IshouldbebetterthanSunHaoandGaoWei，Sir，whatdoyouthink？xiaofan：Ithink，Goodandevilarerelatedtothesurroundingenvironment，Indifferentenvironments，ordinarypeoplecanshowgoodorevil，However，wisepeoplearenotaffectedbytheenvironment，Afteryoucametopower，Youhavesavedpeoplefromharm，Eventually，thecountrysettleddown，Youarenotaffectedbytheenvironment，Itisbettertostayawayfromevilenvironments，Ihopeyouthinkaboutitcarefully。chenmu：Sirisright，Irespectfullyacceptyourteachings。陈牧：今西羌复叛，寡人欲讨之，先生以为如何。萧凡：臣以为，彼种落杂居，不相统壹，不能为中国大患。且国家疲弊，宜先抚谕，征其租税。若不从命，然后讨之，未之晚也。陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人谨受教。chenmu：Now，WesternQianghasbetrayedagain，Iwanttosendtroopstoattackit，Sir，whatdoyouthink？xiaofan：Ithink，TherearemanytribesinWesternQiang，Theyarenotaffiliatedwitheachother，Therearealotofconflictswithinthem，Moreover，thesituationinourcountryisnotoptimistic，YoushouldfirstappeasetheWesternQiangandcollectitstaxes，Iftheydonotacceptyourorder，Itisnottoolateforyoutoattackit。chenmu：Sirisright，Irespectfullyacceptyourteachings。陈牧：寡人欲以蜀中之财，增修宫室，可乎？先生以为如何？萧凡：臣以为，中兴之初，即平城为宫，殊为俭陋。梁王之乱，惠帝兰台都坐，殆不蔽寒暑，是以更营新宫。比之隋、唐则为俭，比之太祖时则为侈矣。今寇敌方强，岂可大兴功役，劳扰百姓邪！凡任天下之重者，当保国宁家，缉熙政事，乃以修室为能邪？陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人谨受教。chenmu：IwanttobuildapalacewiththewealthoftheShuKingdom，Sir，whatdoyouthink？xiaofan：Ithink，Atthebeginningofthefoundingofthecountry，PingyangPalaceisindeedsomewhatrudimentary，WhenKingLiangrebelled，KingHuihadnoplacetolive，So，theybuiltnewpalaces，ItsscaleissomewhatsMallerthanthatoftheSuiandTangdynasties，However，itismoreextravagantthanthepalacebuiltbyyourfather，Today，theenemiesarestrong，Ifyoubuildalarge-scalepalace，Thatwouldputaburdenonthepeople，Youarethekingoftheworld，Youshouldprotectthecountryandthepeople，Atthesametime，youhavetobediligentinhandlinggovernmentaffairs，Itisnotappropriateforyoutobuildapalace。chenmu：Sirisright，Irespectfullyacceptyourteachings。陈牧：寡人欲南征，督诸军并力取襄阳，先生以为如何？萧凡：臣以为不妥，大王欲取江南，固当博谋熟虑，不可仓猝。若止取襄阳，又岂足亲劳大驾乎？未有动天下之众，而为一城者，所谓以随侯之珠，弹千仞之雀也。陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人谨受教。chenmu：Iwasjustabouttomarchsouth，WhenthegeneralsattackedXiangyang，Iwanttooverseethiswar，Sir，whatdoyouthink？xiaofan：Idonotapproveofyoudoingthis，IfyouwanttoattacktheJiangnanarea，Thenyoushouldplancarefullyandnotacthastily，IfyoujustwanttoattackXiangyang，Thenthetaskisforthegenerals，notforyou，Itisfoolishtomobilizeallthetroopstoattackacity，Ifyoudothat，thenyouarewastingtime，energyandstrength。chenmu：Sirisright，Irespectfullyacceptyourteachings。陈牧：寡人欲一天下，南征楚国，可乎？先生以为如何？萧凡：臣以为，楚王之暴，未如孙皓，江山险固，易守难攻。大王必欲廓清江表，亦不过分命将帅，引关东之兵，南临淮、泗，下梁、益之卒，东出巴、峡，又何必亲屈鸾辂，远幸沮泽乎？昔汉光武诛公孙述，晋武帝擒孙皓，未闻二帝自统六师，亲执枹鼓，蒙矢石也，愿大王鉴之。陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人谨受教。chenmu：Iwanttounifytheworld，Therefore，IwanttoattacktheStateofChu，Sir，whatdoyouthink？xiaofan：Ithink，ThekingofChuwasnotasbrutalasSunHao，Moreover，itsterrainisnotconducivetoouroffensive，IfyouwanttolaunchageneralattackontheStateofChu，Wegenerallyhavetwostrategies，first，ThearmyontheeasternfrontwastoadvancetoHuaisi，second，Thesouthwesternarmyistoattacktotheeast，Thesethingsshouldbecarriedoutbythegenerals，notyou，Itisunnecessaryforyoutogooutinperson，Previously，EmperorGuangwuattackedGongsunShu，Hedidnotpersonallycommandthebattlefield，Heisonlyresponsibleforstrategicdirection，Tacticsarecarriedoutbythegenerals，Ihopeyoulearnfromit。chenmu：Sirisright，Irespectfullyacceptyourteachings。陈牧：寡人欲作教武堂于渭城，命太学生明阴阳兵法者，教授诸将，先生以为如何？萧凡：臣以为，大王东征西伐，所向无敌，四海之地，什得其八，虽江南未服，盖不足言，是宜稍偃武事，增修文德。乃更始立学舍，教人战斗之术，殆非所以驯致升平也。且诸将皆百战之馀，何患不习于兵，而更使受教于书生，非所以强其志气也。此无益于实而有损于名，惟大王图之！陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人知过矣。chenmu：IwanttoestablishamilitaryacademyinWeicheng，Atthesametime，Iwanttheprofessortoteachthegeneralstheartofwar，Sir，whatdoyouthink？xiaofan：Ithink，Thewarsyoustartedwerebasicallywon，Nooneisyouropponent，Moreover，theterritoryoftheworldhasalreadybeenoccupiedbyyouforeighttenths，AlthoughJiangnanhasnotyetreturnedtoyou，Thisisnotaproblem，Therefore，youshouldreducethemilitaryinput，Andyoushouldpayattentiontoculturalconstruction，Ifyoubuildmilitaryacademiestopromotetheideaofwar，Thisisnotasolutiontostabilizingsociety，Besides，thegeneralshaverealcombatexperience，Itisnotwiseforyoutolettheprofessorteachthem，Thiswilllowertheirmorale，Itisalmostuseless，onlyafalsename，Ihopeyouthinkaboutitcarefully。chenmu：Sirisright，Iwaswrong。

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